Editor’s note about the Great Northern Rail car:
Several years ago, we investigated a site along Highway 2, west of Minot, North Dakota. It took some digging and neighborly visiting to get the story of the Northern Pacific, later a Great Northern rail car, rotting away in a gravel pit. Here’s the story as we ran it in 2015.
Have you seen the Great Northern rail car along Highway 2 west of Minot?
Once again as we do so often in recent months, we head down Highway 2. We eyeballed the rail car in the middle of the gravel pit. It was so out-of-place that we mentally marked its location between Minot and Williston. Each time we passed it, our curiosity grew. We apparently were not the only ones.
After we posted an image on our Facebook page, we got an overwhelming response from people wanting to know more. A few chipped in what they knew of the steel-wheel reminder of another era. Our search yielded very little, not much online.
The search begins
“Wait a minute,” I said, “I know a guy.” One or two lifetimes ago I had met Fred back when I was a local weekly newspaper editor. So, I called him, and he knew exactly what I was talking about. He gave me a name and that’s where the search started. From that name, I got another name, and from that name a third name, name after name, I finally got to the owner, Robert. He seemed like a nice enough guy talking to him on the phone, so I asked to meet with him to get more information on the car. “Yeah, I’ll meetcha on Monday. I’ll bring my briefcase.”
Briefcase? What had we gotten in to? Were we about to go head to head with some high-powered negotiator who kept his life in his briefcase?
We knew where we were going, we just didn’t know how to get there. We followed his directions and the snow tracks in to the farm-yard, past the house to where a pickup truck was parked outside a large metal farm shop. That was about as good a sign as any that the man with the briefcase was nearby.
The shop door was locked. I called him on the phone and after a couple of minutes, he unlocked the door from inside. Were we about to meet the high-powered negotiator with a briefcase? Were we going to need an attorney? A high priced team of negotiators? A hitman?
We meet Robert, a Great Northern rail car expert
No. Robert was anything but; in his late 60’s, smiling, charming, a bit of a silver ponytail under his cowboy hat.
Robert met us with a warm casual greeting. “Hi, there! C’mon in!” He held the door open, we made introductions and he ushered us through a large shop building that most farmers would be glad to have. Equipment parked neatly in the dark room on the dirt floor. “Go on back,” he said and we threaded our way to another door on the back wall. We had just been in the foyer. We got back in to his brightly lit, clean and colorful domain. Here, an extra-large shop housed a wooden cook wagon for a cattle drive, an old John Deere, an old Ford tractor and an endless selection of well-organized memorabilia extending as far as the eye could see in his shop – and a couple of recliners next to a table. This was Robert’s “office.”
He opened the briefcase, and out came the goods. He had it all. “Here’s a letter to the railroad history group,” he started. “Here are stories, and here is a diagram.”
Mountrail County
Robert told us how the spur started up a slope to the north and the rail company could let cars roll back in to the gravel pit, then load them before being pulled out by an engine. He said that was how the fancy wooden passenger car got into the gravel pit. Then later, a crane lifted it off the tracks, set it on the ground to become a bunkhouse and office — from 1st class passenger car to gravel pit bunkhouse. He said, “The Mountrail County Historical Association wanted to move it to Flickertail Village in Stanley.”
Vandalism and Weather
The drawings and illustrations showed the car at one time was quite ornate. “Yeah, it had stained glass windows and a lot of fancy work on it, but vandals got in there and broke all the glass and pretty well tore it up,” he said.
“Senseless,” we shook our heads. “Why do people destroy things like that?”
Robert is a good conversationalist, good to talk to. He took us back in time to show us his restored antiques and rare collectibles, including brass hinges and door knobs. He’s a collector and a wealth of regional history – a wealth to uncover with patience and time.
However, we were on our way to Williston and couldn’t spend much time with him, so we made a disappointing departure – our disappointment because Robert is a rare life-long fixture of the prairies. We told him, we’d like to come back and he said that would be good.
100-year History of this Great Northern railcar
He had given us a start. From the newspaper stories of years ago, the drawings and letters, we learned enough about the rail car to hunt for more information online.
Just as Robert had said, Barney and Smith Company of Dayton, Ohio built the car in 1906.
The company started 70 years earlier, before the Civil War by two men who met at a local Baptist Church in the 1840’s. They built rail cars and eventually inner-city trolleys.
The Great Northern railcar, parked along Highway 2 in Mountrail County, North Dakota traveled all over the upper Midwest pulled by the Northern Pacific rail company before selling it to the Great Northern Railway.
The NP connection with Yellowstone
The N.P. built the line through southern North Dakota and Montana, from Fargo, Bismarck and on to Billings and west. It invested heavily in a new idea called “Yellowstone Park” and helped pay for the Old Faithful Inn in Yellowstone. N.P recovered its investment by promoting tourist trains from the east, across the prairies to the Rockies and to Yellowstone National Park. Tourists paid to travel by N.P. rail for a day or two to get to near Billings, and then take an N.P. spur to Yellowstone. The gravel pit rail car was likely one of the cars the N.P. used to carry passengers.
In 1941, The Northern Pacific sold the rail car to the Great Northern Railroad, the company that ran the northern line across North Dakota and Montana. The Great Northern used the rail car as a bunker car for workers at the gravel pit. Between 25 and 50 workers, earning $1.80/hour lived in nearby Blaisdell or at the pit, some turned the rail car into a temporary home and office for the gravel pit.
Modern attempts to restore
The Great Northern used the gravel for rail beds until it became apparent that the gravel in the pit was too smooth and round; a sharper-edged granite was needed. The G.N.. abandoned the site in 1958, pulled up the tracks, but left the rail car. The Mountrail County Historical Society floated the idea of moving the car to the Flickertail Village in Stanley, but when the group learned the car had no wheels, it abandoned the plans, and the car was left to rot.
Use your historical imagination and a bit of romance to see it as it once was
Robert gave us permission to check out the Great Northern rail car when we got the chance. Vandals and thieves have stripped the car of most of its detail unless you look very closely.
We found it wasn’t hard to imagine the stately high-end decor of the car, one of the Great Northern Rail Car jewels. It has a spirit about it, a feel that causes a visitor to slip into a romantic nostalgia of another era.
It’s an impressive structure, about 70-feet long, but I don’t think I’d trust the floor or the walls. Weather did its thing for the last half-century. It wasn’t difficult to imagine standing on the back deck and watch the woodlands of Minnesota turn into prairies of eastern North Dakota, and then the ruggedness of the Badlands and finally the kingly Rocky Mountains.
Our few minutes with a Great Northern rail car would have been longer if it were not so cold and windy. We shot around the car from different angles. It’s a horizontal monolith of the prairie. It’s a reminder that today’s industry in the Badlands of North Dakota, the Bakken is not a new phenomenon, that the region has been home to different industrial enterprises for decades. Wooden rail cars dot the prairie as farmers converted them to shops and storage space.
Want More?
Here is another railroad Then and Now story from Beautiful Badlands ND.
Outside Links of the Great Northern Rail Car and the golden days of railroading to Yellowstone:
Yellowstone Historic Center
Barney & Smith Railcar Builder
Here’s a restoration project of a similar rail car is underway. Check out the detail here — much like what would have been in this rotting rail car.
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These old Railway cars were used for everything once the Railroads no longer used them for passenger service. We had a baggage car we used for a tool car to carry our cables and spreader bars, chainsaws, packing hooks, and packing material, brasses, and wedges,lining bars crowbars, air jacks, chokers, chains and anything else you would use on derailments to rerail and fix a railroad car to get back to the Car Shop to be permantly fixed. We also had a passenger car with bunk beds, tables and chairs and gas cooking stoves, overhead water tanks, and a straight tuber for emergency’s in the middle of the night. It had a “L” shaped handle on a rod that you would grab and turn the plate on the bottom of the toilet to dump, when you were away from the area where you were camped. All Wrecking Crews had these cars that traveled with its Wrecking Derrick. I hired out in 1971, and these cars didn’t have electricity till 1975. We used oil lanterns for lighting in the Kitchen Car and Tool Car, or a battery operated flashlight till we got them all lit. The places that had these Passenger Cars with their Wreckers were Minot, Williston, Fargo, Mandan, Glendive Mt., Laurel Montana,Livingston Mt. Missoula, Great Falls, any place they had a Car Shop. So there were quite a few of them cars out there. These Wrecking Crews had our own Cooks, wrecker Forman, wrecker engineer, and 4 ground crew members. If I’m not mistaken, I beleave Dennis Washington has a couple of these cars that have been totaly restored in Missoula Montana, from the old Northern Pacific RR. I’ve seen the car in the old gravel pit, and your story makes complete sense. The last 2 cars passenger cars I spent time in, was from Marmouth N.D. to Terry Montana, when the Burlington Northern bought the old Milwakee Line from the state of South Dakota in 1984. We slept 17 men per car with nothing but Bunk Beds in them, changing black bananas ( railroad ties ) all Summer and Fall.
Wow, Stephen. Thanks for the personal insight. You’ve got a great story to tell. I hope you write about those days.
Mike, I first learned about this rail car from your initial posting several years ago. At that time you gave me contact info for Robert, the owner, as I was interested in getting some of the parts from the car for a 1902 Barney & Smith car being restored at Mid-Continent Railway Museum in North Freedom, Wisconsin. Fast forward to last summer, when a couple of volunteers from our Museum were able to meet Robert at the derelict car. Robert graciously donated eight tin roof vents that had fallen into the car when the roof collapsed These roof vents are now restored and will soon be installed onto the Wisconsin car. The roof vents were in remarkably good condition and are a significant acquisition. In addition to your magnificent photos, this G.N. railcar will continue to live on as a “donor” to a sister car that might have been in the same shop when she was constructed! Thanks for your help and for helping to preserve the memory of this once proud rail car!
Wow.Bob, that’s tremendous. Its awesome how the connections of the Internet work. We didn’t intentionally post this story again, but it took off when it was shared by the right groups. Thanks for following, and staying in contact.
Can this car be accessed easily?
I’m a photographer and would LOVE to use this car as a subject.
This is the only info I can find on this and I live in Minot myself so it would be a short commute.
Physically, yes. Legally, it would be trespassing. Robert Wirtz is your contact. I believe his address is Blaisdell.